Italian Minister for the Economy and Finance Giulio Tremonti, right, speaks with Chairman of JPMorgan Chase International Jacob Frenkel, during the annual Ambrosetti economic forum in Cernobbio, Como Lake, Italy, Saturday, Sept. 3, 2011. Italy's government, waffling for weeks on an emergency austerity plan, received a stern warning Saturday from the European central bank chief to promptly implement the deficit-fighting measures and stay on target. Premier Silvio Berlusconi is caught between trying to placate allies and satisfying both nervous markets and worried European Union officials. (AP Photo/Luca Bruno)
Italian Minister for the Economy and Finance Giulio Tremonti, right, speaks with Chairman of JPMorgan Chase International Jacob Frenkel, during the annual Ambrosetti economic forum in Cernobbio, Como Lake, Italy, Saturday, Sept. 3, 2011. Italy's government, waffling for weeks on an emergency austerity plan, received a stern warning Saturday from the European central bank chief to promptly implement the deficit-fighting measures and stay on target. Premier Silvio Berlusconi is caught between trying to placate allies and satisfying both nervous markets and worried European Union officials. (AP Photo/Luca Bruno)
Spanish Minister of Economy and Finance Elena Salgado arrives to the annual Ambrosetti economic forum in Cernobbio, Como Lake, Italy, Saturday, Sept. 3, 2011. Italy's government, waffling for weeks on an emergency austerity plan, received a stern warning Saturday from the European central bank chief to promptly implement the deficit-fighting measures and stay on target. Premier Silvio Berlusconi is caught between trying to placate allies and satisfying both nervous markets and worried European Union officials. (AP Photo/Luca Bruno)
European Commissioner for Competition Policy Joaquin Almunia poses at an economic forum in Cernobbio, Como Lake, Italy, Saturday, Sept. 3, 2011. Italy's government, waffling for weeks an emergency austerity plan, received a stern warning Saturday from the European central bank chief to promptly implement the deficit-fighting measures and stay on target. With Italy offering a spectacle of uncertainty, European Central Bank president Jean-Claude Trichet called on Rome to keep to its word and push the package, announced in early August, toward completion. "It is essential that the target which was announced to diminish the deficit will be fully confirmed and implemented," Trichet said at an annual economics forum at a Lake Como resort. "This is absolutely decisive to consolidate and reinforce the quality and the credibility of the Italian strategy and its credit worthiness." (AP Photo/Luca Bruno)
European Central Bank chief Jean-Claude Trichet is projected on a giant screen as he delivers his speech at an economic forum in Cernobbio, Como Lake, Italy, Saturday, Sept. 3, 2011. European Central Bank chief Jean-Claude Trichet warned Italy Saturday it was "essential" to promptly implement its deficit-reducing measures if it wants to preserve its credit worthiness. Premier Silvio Berlusconi's government has been squabbling for weeks over proposed new taxes and spending cuts to achieve a euros 45.5 billion ($64.86 billion) austerity package, which Parliament must approve later this month. "It is essential that the target which was announced to diminish the deficit will be fully confirmed and implemented," the ECB president said at an economic forum at a Lake Como resort. (AP Photo/Luca Bruno)
CERNOBBIO, Italy (AP) ? Finance officials and experts gathered in Italy mostly agreed Saturday that Europe needs deeper political union to preserve the troubled euro ? even though persistent national identities made the prospect politically unlikely in the near future.
Speakers at the annual Ambrosetti forum labored to articulate the emerging existential dilemma: Monetary union struggles without central budget control, but member nations want independence; and the imbalances that result could lead to a calamitous breakup of the euro ? which no one wants either, especially since it could send the world economy into a tailspin.
Unless Europeans agree "to complete economic and monetary union ... with a fiscal union, with a strong governance, with a feeling that some political decision should be adopted in common by those who are sharing the single currency, we will not succeed," said Joaquin Almunia, a vice president of the EU commission, the closest thing to a central government in the union.
While most governments bristle at this, Spanish Finance Minister Elena Salgado bravely concurred, saying she supported "more fiscal integration" and noting that her country was in any case deeply dependent on trade with the rest of the EU.
The current structure depends on national governments acting in concert when needed. But instead, said Italian economist Mario Monti, governments are becoming increasingly "short-termist" ? preferring to pander to voters even if the result is dysfunction on the European level.
The most acute example of this has been repeated dithering over rescue packages for Greece and other economies on the brink of insolvency in the past two years. The emerging pattern has been rescue packages agreed upon at the last possible moment, after prolonged hesitation and public acrimony sent European and global markets careening.
That occurred with the recent Greek bailout agreement. After months of back and forth with the Greek government, eurozone leaders in July finally agreed to grant the country a second massive aid package. But sealing a final deal on the rescue loans has been complicated by a protracted dispute over a demand from Finland to get collateral to secure its contributions, which has triggered similar requests from at least four other countries.
That debate clashes with European leaders' insistence that Greece would never be allowed to default on its debts.
Many of the speakers in Cernobbio singled out Germany, which as the best performing EU economy both benefits from the union and is called upon to subsidize others.
Some speakers noted that the indebted nations might benefit from a return to their own currency, which they could then devalue, reducing the size of the debt, stimulating growth through exports and forcing austerity through inflation.
But that is a dangerous scenario, warned New York University economist Nuriel Roubini. "The question is whether the Germans are realizing the benefits of avoiding" a eurozone breakup, he said. "This is a key decision determining whether there's going to be survival of the eurozone or not."
At the heart of the matter is the fact ? made evident in figures presented at the three-day forum ? that the European Union is operating at two speeds, with Germany and a few other mostly northern nations performing far better than the southern rim and even France.
Examples include:
?GDP growth for 2011 was forecast at 3.1 percent for Germany, compared to 0.8 percent for Spain and 0.9 percent for Italy.
?Investments were seen as growing by 7 percent in Germany on the year, compared to only 1.6 percent in Italy.
?Unemployment in Spain is topping 20 percent again, more than three times the figure in Germany and more than double that of France.
?The effective interest rates paid by businesses in the various countries differ greatly, with capital being far cheaper in the north.
?While industrial production has returned to pre-crisis levels, in Greece it is at only 72 percent of the pre-2008 level and in Spain it is at 78 percent.
Furthermore, the absence of basic elements of a union create impracticalities that fuel distrust in the European project: Despite the customs, union police continue to guard some borders; the 27 nations keep embassies widely seen as wasteful in each other's capitals; and pensions generally cannot be transferred from nation to nation.
Former Austrian Chancellor Wolfgang Schussel said that if the EU integrated its services sector, digital infrastructure and energy sector, the result would be an additional 2 percent of GDP.
Even if it did, it would not address the grander dilemmas that bedevil Europe: low fertility rates, inefficiencies that stem from the lack of a common language, an aging population and, most damagingly, labor costs that hamper competitiveness versus the emerging economies of the east.
China's Zhu Min, the recently minted deputy director of the IMF, urged Europeans to start by overcoming their divisions: "At the end of the day if you don't have a single market, you won't have a single currency and a common growth," he said.
Schussel said the only way to do that was for leaders to appeal to public opinion despite the political risks.
"The European Union cannot survive if it is only a project of elites talking to other elites and some selected journalists," he said.
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